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rossm001
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(7/30/01 10:00:29 am)
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Gliga "Maestro" cello
Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for some info and feedback regarding the above cello. The one I'm
interested in is supposedly the top of the line of this Romanian builder.
I had the opportunity to buy one locally but there was no label in the instrument even
though when I wrote the builder's shop they said that it is almost impossible for that
instrument to leave the shop without an interior label. Anyone have any experience
with a "missing' label? Also, do these dealers who advertise 7-day money-back guarantees
really refund all your money if not satisfied with the instrument?

Thanks,
Jeff Rossman

CelloBass
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(7/30/01 7:40:27 pm)
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2 weeks ago I bought a "Professional" which is one step below the Maestro. According Gliga the only difference is that the Maestro is build by Gliga himself, but the wood etc. should be the same. I had to take it to the luthier because the soundpost had fallen during the transport, so I couldn't play it yet. I bought it "blind" because it was a bargain. It has a label, handwritten. Check the fingerboard. Mine was loose and wavy that you could feel it with your bare fingers. Also, the Thomastik strings were no real Thomastiks but fakes. My luthier was impressed by the wood, but it will cost me another 400$ to get it into a good playable condition. If it will sound OK, I will not complain. I would say, the basic body of the instrument seems to be very good, but the setup including the parts delivered by Gliga are of minor quality. For example, the screws of the finetuners are rusty because they don't attach a real brand metal tailpiece but a fake.

Horst

Ellen G 
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(7/30/01 8:25:59 pm)
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Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello
I've posted on these cellos a few times so I hate to do it again, but I can tell you what the feedback here is if you want to click on the profile and e-mail me. Very similar to what Horst had to say. The stories have a happy ending, by the way.

CelloBass
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(7/31/01 1:28:06 pm)
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Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello
Ellen,

I have heard that the tone of the Gligas is a bit dark. What strings do you usually put on Gliga Gama cellos? Does 'happy ending' mean that they turn out to sound good? :)

Horst

Ellen G 
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(7/31/01 4:27:07 pm)
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Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello
This is an uncomfortable area for me to discuss on the board because I have my own information and experience in addition to a lot of people who have shared their experiences as well. I tend to talk sometimes as if everyone knows all the background, and that's when things get real confusing on a public forum.

I did try responding to some of you through EZBoard but the message box is full. I don't know if you'll hear from me or not. Not my fault!

In a nutshell what I am trying to say is that people who receive a non-upgraded Gliga will most likely not be impressed with the instrument. The money spent on upgrading, if it is done well, should be worth it if your results are similar to ours. What you need to do to fairly evaluate the cello is have one which is set up for you so you can play it against similarly priced cellos, as well as those in the next price level.

If you are forced to purchase the cello, then start fixing it up, you are in a nonenviable position. I am not a bargain hunter and would not go this route. Selecting cellos are like picking friends. They require time in a lot of circumstances to see if they are good friends or fair-weather. Purchasing one and speculating on what it may be capable of..... no.

HOWEVER, not everyone is as cautious as I am. If you were to take a gamble on a Gliga, I'd say it would be a good bet it would fix up nicely and be a very sweet cello for what you've put into it. E

CelloBass
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(8/1/01 6:39:23 pm)
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Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello
Ellen,

the cello itself has answered my question. Today I went to my luthier who is a cellist, and he demonstrated the cello. My first reaction was 'wow'! :) It sounds just great. Full, deep, loud, brillant. My luthier was a bit sceptical at first when I took the instrument to him 2 weeks ago. It was the first Gliga he had in his workshop. Today he frankly admitted that it outperforms cellos in the 8k$-range easily. I payed 1500$, so I am happy that I was right when I bought it without trying it before.

Horst

Cellospieler
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Posts: 58
(8/3/01 12:42:09 pm)
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I have had nothing but positive feedback on my Gliga Professional series cello. I did have to spend some cash to get it set up properly: new strings, reshaped bridge, new endpin (Bice 8mm) and chose to replace the bulky tailpiece with a Harmonie. The biggest improvement in sound came when I replaced the endpin with the Bice CF, but the sound was already good. The sound is huge, round and dark, but that's what I go for so it works for me.

Those who have given it a try are amazed with it, and I have been told it would be appraised at least two and a half times what I paid for it.

P.S. The fingerboards are sometimes "wavy" but the "craftspersonsship" or "artistry" (or whatever you think is the correct label is) is quite remarkable.

CelloBass--I am curious to know who you managed to procure a "Maestro" for $1,500 when the usually go for about 6.5K, how did you swing that?

Gliga GEMS cellos are the cellos the Gliga luthiers learn on for anyone interested, and are usually offered as "student" cellos.

CelloBass
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(8/3/01 4:17:05 pm)
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Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello
Hi Cellospieler,

German name... are you German? When I took the cello to my luthier he told me that he would like to do a complete new setup, as he usually does on new cellos built by himself. This included a new, first class bridge of very hard wood with the thickness optimized to the characteristics of the instrument. New soundpost as well. The original endpin fullfilled his criteria and he told me that replacing the endpin wouldn't improve the sound. I believe him because he has experimented a lot with endpins. And he is good; the violinist Anne-Sophie Mutter had her "Raven" Strad checked by him when she played a recital in Stuttgart. But this may be true for my instrument, I believe you when you say that it improved the sound on your cello.

I don't have a Maestro, I have a "professional" which is also called GAMA. Anyway, it was a bargain. Less than half of the normal price. I wrote some e-mails to them, about getting into the German market (I live there) and very unpleasant things like fooling people by "reserved price" auctions at Ebay. They still do it, but I don't care. In my mind it is not an appropiate way to sell instruments. Buying an instrument is a matter of trust, and how shall I trust somebody who doesn't even tell me the price I will have to pay? Finally, they asked me if they could make an offer. I agreed, they offered, I was surprised, and I accepted the same night. :) To everybody who has read this: Please don't try the same thing, else Vasile Gliga will kill me with his biggest cello file! :)

Horst

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Gliga "Maestro" cello rossm001 7/30/01 10:00:29 am
    Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello CelloBass 7/30/01 7:40:27 pm
       Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello Ellen G  7/30/01 8:25:59 pm
          Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello CelloBass 7/31/01 1:28:06 pm
             Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello Ellen G  7/31/01 4:27:07 pm
                Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello CelloBass 8/1/01 6:39:23 pm
                   Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello Cellospieler 8/3/01 12:42:09 pm
                      Re: Gliga "Maestro" cello CelloBass 8/3/01 4:17:05 pm



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