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Len Thompson
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(7/30/01 3:16:49 pm)
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Bow Modifications?
We hear quite a bit about the various cello mods that can be made. From set-up changes, to strings, to new hardware. Eather I missed the ones concerning bows, or there's not any. Does this mean that you can't alter the bow much beyond a rehair, or can a good bow maker make changes?

Len

Christopher Chan
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(7/31/01 12:45:31 am)
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These excerpts taken from various sites have some good info on bow mods.

www.salchowbows.com/select.htm
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Bow Maintenance
Bows require constant, skilled attention if they are to be preserved in good condition. And condition is an important factor in determining price and salability. So if fine condition is not maintained, the value of your investment will decline.

What has your bow done for you lately? Is it doing all that it can for your playing? Many factors can influence the performance of a bow, for better or worse.

The first consideration is sound; the difference in sound between one bow and another can be staggering. So if you want to improve your performance, look for a bow which brings out the best tonal qualities of your instrument. Beyond that, and assuming that your bow does have "the sound," many mechanical problems can prevent your bow from functioning at its best. For maximum strength and resistance, the evenness of the curve is crucial. Any "break" in the camber can cause the stick to collapse on the string at that point. If the stick is not centered over the hair, this can cause major loss of resistance. If the stick is weak, bringing it over to the "good" side can greatly improve strength. Balance can also be corrected and improved, giving better spiccato and overall ease of playing. A loose frog is dangerous, leading to frog damage. And long hair can expose the stick to wear by the thumb, causing loss of value as well as changing the playing characteristics of the bow.


www.tourte.com/
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Bows can often be "customized" to suit a particular player by changing the weight and balance slightly. This should only be done by a competent bow specialist, not an amateur.

A maker can change things like the tip (bone or metal), the screw, the windings(silver adds more weight than whalebone would for instance), frog weight, etc. A maker can also make irreversable changes by removing wood from the bow, but it probably isn't a good idea for expensive bows.

You can also add surgical tubing to the bow to get a better grip and relieve some tension.

Len Thompson
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(7/31/01 4:26:30 pm)
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Re: Bow Modifications?
Christopher,

Many thanks for your reply. I have not read all the info from the sites yet, but I intend to. There may be some hope for my bow yet. Thanks again!

Len

Andrew Victor
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(8/2/01 9:40:39 am)
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Re: Bow Modifications?
You can try experimenting with hair tightening. If your bow has enough hair, you can vary the tightness to see what this does to the sound quality, the response on all the notes (just play scales), and the ability to vary volumn and the range of "bowing points" (or sounding points) you can use.

Sometimes luthiers use a standard amount of hair that is not optimal for the particular bow and you may have to use different degrees of tighness after a rehairing - the same thing appleis when the humidity changes.

If a bow has too much hair it may not be possible to get it tight enough, even when the stick has been tensioned to "full straightness" the tension in each individual hair may not be highe enough for optimum sound - this espeically happens with soft sticks.

With stiff sticks, it is possible to have too little hair in the bow, and when optimum tension in the individual hairs is achieved, onecannot maintain adequate standoff of the hair from the stick.

The balance that can be changed by weight changes at either tip or frog can make major differences in the way a bow handles and plays.

I've yet to find a bow maker (or expert) willing to commit to or even state what it is that different bow acoustics are really doing to change the sound of an instrument. They seem to agree that more resonant sticks sound better.
Obviously a stick that vibrates when it is played has picked up vibrations from the hair. It is taking energy to make the stick vibrate. This energy is removed from the hair. I reason that removing vibrations from the hair allows continuation of smoother hair contact with the string and purer sound with no "bad notes." So, the resonant stick is actually damping the hair vibrations - I think - and that is in the wood and what the maker did with it.
Since bows of various weights and stiffnesses can have these sound characteristics, I think it must be some intrinsic property of the wood - more like the speed of sound therein - that is a dominant factor (but I'm not sure). This is one thing no luther can change. But the tension in the hair will affect how the hair couples with the stick - and this WE can vary. I've certainly changed the way a number of my bows play - in every way (including the sound) by changing weight, balance (more important by far than actual total weight), the tensions (hair standoff from bow) I try playing with, and the number of hairs in a bow. (It is easier and cheaper to give a bow a careful haircut than it is to have it rehaired!)

Andy

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Bow Modifications? Len Thompson 7/30/01 3:16:49 pm
    Re: Bow Modifications? Andrew Victor 8/2/01 9:40:39 am
    Re: Bow Modifications? Christopher Chan 7/31/01 12:45:31 am
       Re: Bow Modifications? Len Thompson 7/31/01 4:26:30 pm



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