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Ponticello
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(4/20/01 3:20:04 pm)
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saddest, most emotional moments in music
I was wondering if you guys could
help me out.
My best friend, a choral composer and conductor and
I were discussing instrumental vs. choral music, and he says he
feels no emotions for just instrumental music. He says that unless
you have words to go with the music, that one can never get the same
deep heart felt emotions that you can with words in song.
Of
course he is wrong which I'm trying to prove. What, in your opions
are the most heart wrenching saddest tear jerking moments in
instrumental/orchestral music?
All I could come up with
was:
1) Tchaik 6th (pathetique) 4th movement
2) Tchaik 4th
various parts of 1st movement
3) Barber adagio for strings--the
big climax
4) Faure Elegie--also the big climax
Anyone
got any other suggestions? Thanks
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Ernie77
Registered User
(4/20/01 4:09:03 pm)
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How
about the Elgar Cello Concerto
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karen83
Registered User
(4/20/01 5:17:20 pm)
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Anything Brahms
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Anna
List
Registered
User
(4/20/01 6:24:00 pm)
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What a
question!
Well, these are mine:
Beethoven,
Piano Trio "The Ghost", 2nd mov. Cello Solo; String Quartet op.
59,1; 3rd mov.
Shostakovitch, Cello Sonata, 3rd mov.; Concerto
#1, 2nd mov. beginning
Bach, 5th Suite, Sarabande (not sad, but
very moving)
Tschaikowsky #5 2nd mov. (such emotional
music...)
and so many, many more...
Have a good
cry!
Anna
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Jon
Pegis
Registered
User
(4/20/01 6:33:18 pm)
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Saddest
moments
I'm overwhelmed at the choices here!
My selections would also hinge on who the performers were, as the
combination of the music and the performance ultimately determines
for me just how much emotion I sense. Off the top of my head, I
would nominate:
Heifetz playing Chausson Poeme.
Lynn Harrell
playing Kol Nidre, Schelomo, and the slow movement of the
Shostakovich Cello Concerto (not to mention a ton of other
recordings of his!).
Chicago Symphony in the Ninth Symphony of
Mahler.
Pinchas Zukerman in the slow movement of Elgar Violin
Concerto.
Kristian Zimmerman in the slow movement of the Ravel
Piano Concerto--one of my all time favorites!
Perlman, Ashkenazy,
and Harrell in the opening of the Brahms B Major Piano Trio.
I
probably should have thought more about these before I started
typing. I could easily go on for another hour or so!
Jon
Pegis
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raymcc85
Registered User
(4/20/01 7:02:58 pm)
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Shostakovich Sym. #5, 3rd Mov.
As for the Barber, I've always felt
that the quartet version of the Adagio had a simple power that
overwhelmed the orchestral version (or the choral version for that
matter).
But the most emotionally sad music to me is the
Shostakovich 5th, 3rd Movement. It builds to such a pitch then
releases as if accepting death itself(a pretty good metaphor for a
composer living in Stalin's USSR). I can listen to it over and over
still feel emotional (particularly the Haitink
performance).
-r
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MsCheryl
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Registered
User
(4/21/01 4:52:25 am)
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Anything our conductor conducts ;)
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Tracie
Price 
Registered
User
(4/21/01 11:17:27 am)
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Re:
saddest, most emotional moments in music
The beginning of act III of Tristan
und Isolde-- so desolate!
Ummm...
Slow movements of
Mahler 4 and 9 (and 5)
Lots of Shostakovich..
hmm.
I'll finish this later I have to go now!
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Sasha
A M
Registered
User
(4/21/01 12:42:13 pm)
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your
friend is missing the point, ponticello
...because, in my opinion, if you
have words for music, you have the emotional content laid out
beforehand. so the feeling cannot possibly be as *personal* as it is
with instrumental music.
with instrumental music everyone has
her/his own imagination and emotion for the music, and it should not
be told to anyone else. why? because then it restricts their
imagination. that is why a movie of a book can never be as good as
the book itself.
sasha
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DoDahlberg
Moderator
(4/21/01 2:25:33 pm)
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Sasha
I understand that this is your
opinion, and that the choral conductor mentioned is being a bit
narrow, but people tend to gravitate to things which appeal to their
sensibilites. There are some people who attach emotional meaning to
music without words and others who are drawn to language in all it's
artisitic forms - including language with music: poetry/lyric
whatever you want to call it.
As for saying a movie of a
book can never be as good as the original book is a pretty sweeping
statement. If you look at a film as a different interpretation of a
story rather than something that's supposed to compete with it than
you can eliminate saying things like: 'better than','not as good
as'. Some authors may even feel that seeing their work brought to
film completes or enhances their vision, they often collaborate with
directors and enjoy being part of the process. Never say
never.
There is so much orchestral music based on stories,
real or fantastic. Based on your statement on movies, do you think
these composers shouldn't be free to interpret them in their own
personal ways just because they didn't use words or visual
information?
Dorie
Edited by: DoDahlberg
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