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danielemanuel
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(4/19/01 12:04:56 pm)
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The Monn and Schoenberg concertos...
Hiya everyone, it's me again.. and guess what I am going to post about... ...CONCERTOS!!!! what a suprise, eh? :)

So boys & girls, what do you think about the Monn and Schoenberg concertos? The Schoenberg concerto seems to be a free transcription of a Monn Harpsichord concerto. Are they nice? Easy/difficult?
Do you like them?

Have a good time all,

\Daniel

zambocello
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(4/19/01 3:14:56 pm)
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Re: The Monn and Schoenberg concertos...
The Schoenberg Concerto is a pretty hard piece, no? It doesn't get played much. The real Monn cello concerto is apparently one of Monn's best pieces and a fine part of our cello concerto repertoire. It's not too difficult; harder than Vivaldi Concertos but less so than Haydn C. I've not yet played it myself, but have had high school students make very good presentations of the piece. It's published with piano reduction and in full score with parts. Edition Kunzelman, if memory serves correctly.

danielemanuel
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(4/19/01 3:29:40 pm)
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Re: The Monn and Schoenberg concertos...
Ahh ok.. I think the piano reduction of the Monn actually was made by Schoenberg. Apparently he dug up older music and got it published when he was low on money..

Easier then the Haydn C? :) That sounds really interesting for me then. I'll check it out as soon as I get some time.

\Daniel

zambocello
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(4/20/01 1:34:57 am)
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Don't get them mixed up......
The Schoenberg Cello Concerto, as you observed, is a Schoenbergization of a Monn harpsichord concerto. Dedicated to Casals, was it?

The Monn Cello Concerto is a different piece, available in a 1974 edition from Eulenberg (not Kunzelman as I misstated in the other post) prepared by Oliver Nagy. I don't think Schoenberg was involved with it......

danielemanuel
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(4/20/01 8:01:48 am)
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Re: The Monn and Schoenberg concertos... +Zellbell
Ok.. but the reduction of the Monn concerto that I can get from our national library is by Schoenberg..
have a look at http://www.schoenberg.at/6_archiv/music/works/no_op/compositions_no_op_instr_e.htm
and you see that he had something to do with the 'real' Monn cello concerto.

I won't get them mixed up! :)

For your interest Zambo, I am spending this afternoon notating a Cello concerto in D from 1741 by the Swedish 18th century composer Ferdinand Zellbell (one of his teachers was Telemann). There is one recording of it on Musica Sveciae, but to my knowledge the sheet music has never been published. The original manuscript is at out national music library and I am working with a photocopy of it. There is also a set of handwritten parts written out in the 1940s, but nothing more.

The concerto seem rather nice so for, it really could have been worse hehe :) I really enjoy writing it in.

\Daniel

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